I was starting to think that meeting one of my main Idols from back when I was a teenager, Al Jourgensen, might never happen. I would have to crawl with my tail between my legs and take back all the bragging I had done. I took every chance I had to rub it in the faces of friends and strangers alike that I was going to meet the industrial god and thus was twice as awesome as they would ever be.
I sat in the alley just off Granville and Robson, picking paint off of a telephone pole for fuck near forever, I was finally led through the maze that is the bowels of the commodore ballroom by tour manager of the Master-Bâ-Tour We passed the stage complete with mic stands adorned with pieces of dead cow skeletons and headed to the band room where Al Jourgensen and the rest of the Ministry and Revolting Cocks crew sat in preparation for their highly anticipated concert.
The first Revolting cocks album in 10 years (Cocked and Loaded) was recently released. Ministry is at the height of their productivity releasing their best material since the mid nineties. What do these two thing have in common? Both of these splendid happenings are all thanks to Al Jourgensen and the fact that after 21 years of heroin addiction he had had enough.
“I don’t hate drugs and I would never say don’t do drugs but for me it doesn’t work. We’re survivors of 15 to 20 years of decadence and we realized it doesn’t work for us. It may work for other people and Initially it worked for me and then it became really disgusting” Al Jourgensen expands on the bands zero tolerance policy. He further adds on the subject of his being more productive without the H in his veins; “We’re no longer on dealer standard time. I can live my own life. You can see the progression of the addiction like with the ministry albums on wax tracks… then there’s Cocks… then Lard… then some other side projects and then all of a sudden it’s three years between albums but now were back on top.”
With such a high level of output, two albums and two videos in the last year alone, one could only wonder about the legendary side project legacy of Jourgensen (including: Pail Head with Ian McKaye, P with Flea and Gibby Haynes, Lard with Jello Biafra, and 1000 Homo DJs with Trent Reznor). Could that too become as fever paced as the nineties? When asked he replied “Right now I have the three headed monster, ministry, revolting cocks and lard. In the future there is another project coming up which is basically Ravens project but I am going to through my hat in the ring It’s called Mob Research. I am still working on my goddamn Buck Satan record but I want to end my career with that so the last record I will ever put out will be Buck Satan and the 666 Shooters.”
For Jourgensen who has worked with everyone from Neal Young to members of Cheap Trick the person at the top of the list for future collaborations is Tom Waits. The two haven’t talked and it is more of a wish situation shared by us all I am sure. Jorgensen’s outlook on the situation is “it if it is meant to happen it will happen.”
On the revolting cocks album Iggy Pop has writing credits on track 1 (Fire Engine). It is his only involvement in the album so I asked Jorgensen exactly what that meant. “I wrote the music and Iggy wrote the lyrics in nineteen hundred and eighty three. [That Year] in Boston me and Iggy went to the studio. This is an out take that sat on the shelf for a long time and we just re-recorded it. It is a song about how Iggy couldn’t get a cab, couldn’t get a ride to score dope in the lower east side in new York so he eventually hopped a fire engine to go get it.
After all the Nostalgia questions I was burning to know something from a man who has had the opportunity to make music with social commentary on the presidency terms of both George Bushes. I can’t even imagine being socially conscious through both eras and since I was a pre-teen while Herbert Walker tooled around the oval office. So which one is worse? “This one, without a doubt. Without a doubt.” Al Jorgensen immediately replied.
But what would make this bush worse after all thy do have pretty much the same cabinet? “The absolute incompetence, stupidity and arrogance. The arrogance mostly comes from the people who prop him up, the Rumsfields the Cheneys the Wolkowitzes. The stupidity is a factor that even his dad didn’t have. His dad had the arrogance, the corruption and the greed but add in the stupidity factor and it is like throwing gasoline on a fucking fire. Sometimes he actually thinks he’s the president.”
Then after all the gloomy political bitching I thought it would be good to end with something positive so I asked Mr. Jorgensen what he would say the over all message that his body of work should convey is:
“Think for yourself that is what the lyrics are about and the music is wear steel toed boots to shows and never drink wine with ought a cork stay away from the cardboard kegs and the twists offs and you will be ok in life.